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JNR reacted to Glort in 1 July 2012I just happened to be searching for something totally unrelated and came across this on the carbon tax website....
Over half the money raised from the carbon price will be used to assist households. Nine in 10 households will receive a combination of tax cuts and payments to help with the costs of the carbon price.
What sort of flucked up tax has to be given away in order to compensate the people it affects?
And it seems to me if more than half is being given away, how much is the cost of administration and controlling that?
Another thing that occurred to me is the amount of brochures and literature produced on this. How much energy and resources were expended on that which would not have otherwise and created less carbon emissions than have been through the introduction of this tax in the first place?
And that is just from the Gubbermint, what about the companies and businesses affected? There must be a chit load more energy and emissions expended by them as well.
Now here is some typical spin doctoring on the website:
Q. Where will the money raised from the carbon price go?
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More than half of the money raised will be used to assist households. The majority of households will receive tax cuts, increased assistance payments or both. With the rest of the money, the Government will be supporting jobs in the most affected industries and investing in our clean energy future.
OK, so far there is no mention of what the money will be spent on as far as actually Doing anything for the environment, reducing emissions etc.
This has been a sticking point with me all along..... What will the money specifically be used for?
So I dig a bit deeper in and click on the link above about supporting industries and jobs.
And I find this golden Nugget....
The Government will allocate around 40 per cent of carbon price revenue to help businesses and support jobs.
HUH??
The first headline I found said the gubbermint will spend over half the tax assisting households. Now this bit says 40% will be used to support jobs and industry.
So if we take the first statement of " Over Half" to it's lowest possibility, 51% and 40% is going to assist jobs, that leaves all of a piddling 9% at very best to help the environment. After administration etc of this debacle. Are these people Fking insane and have lost the plot completely?
Being of a definite non political mentality, If it were me, i'd have just increased an existing tax a small amount so not everyone needed to be compensated and a similar amount of money could have been raised without all the criminal wastage of red tape etc.
But clearly I am burdened by an proclivity to do things as simply, cheaply, efficiently and practically as possible which precludes me from ever making any sort of political representative or official.
So Looking at the carbon scam price further I see a video tellng me that the pollouters will be charged for their carbon emissions and that the price of some things will go up but I'll be compensated for them.
So if I'm paying more with the left hand and someone is giving me more money with the right, then isn't the price effectively the same so there is no incentive for either myself or the producer of said product to actually reduce emissions if their sales are the same?
Someone make sense of this idioticy for me!!
Now the one place I can see this biting us all on the arse is Imports. All of the sudden, the little curry muncher from Chindia who doesn't even have any emissions laws to comply with from basic sewrage/ sanitation suddenly has an even bigger gap between the price of what he can produce by bellowing all sorts of crap out that hasn't been allowed in Oz for 50 years and can either send local businesses to the wall or force the work to be done offshore.
Now Foolia and co may not have noticed but there are no barriers or borders for air or water or anything else. We all breathe from the same big blue bag so Wether you create carbon emissions here or 10,000 miles away, the effect on the planet is all the same.
I'm sure that would seem obvious to anyone bar a one eyed pollie.
Honestly, I thought there may have been some benefit I missed in my ignorance but the more I look into this The more absoloutley retarded, illogical, laughable and downright criminal it becomes.
How anyone, green flea brain or otherwise can support this as having any upside is totally beyond me.
I thought it was just an excuse for a gubbermint cash cow but I can't even see that being a worthwhile possibility at this stage.
Really, we only have ourselves to blame. We support this moronic concept of politics, we vote these clowns in and we let them fluck us up like this and the future of our kids with barely a whimper. What we should do is offer them bonuses for schemes that do work and floggings or public stoning for the ones that don't. In other words, our pollies need some incentive and motivation to do their job with the interests of the people and the country they are working for and being paid by.
Then see how their performance in running the country improves over night and what sort of a good idea this crap tax is.
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