Glort

Received first stage of the sound deadening


Completed both chassis to body sections


And a quick pic of what it will look like


Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories

I sold mine. 
The old girl anyway. 
Been keeping it around and going to do it up for my son but he's not really interested especially since experiencing the turbo power of the new one. 

I sold it not running and no rego and had a heap of people ring for it. 1st guy to come look Bought it on the spot and had a tow truck come and take it away within 2 hours. 

Always sad to see an old vehicle go. That thing never gave me one bit of trouble and the only money I spent on it was tyres and rego. 
I even got a Grand more for the thing than I paid for it. 

The new one goes in for a new HD clutch on Monday. Getting the rear main done and new engine mounts as well. 

Heres a Vid of the baby in action going to work on an old alternator I was going to take to scrap. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS47JZl--Qs
 
I'm half Inclined to take the thing up the wrecking yard when I visit in a couple of weeks and try it on an engine just for chits and giggles.  I reckon I could knock one over in 30 Min without much problem. 
Might have to set it up on some wire to let the ally drip through and catch the steel bits. Might even make an interesting bit of wall art for the workshop. 
 

I half caught an ad on TV the other night for a phone with some new Mega camera built in. I can't remember the MP but it seemed huge for a phone. 
Don't watch much TV ( maybe an hour a week) so I haven't seen it since but obviously the Camera thing is proving to be a big accessory on phones. 

I printed a Photo taken under ideal conditions ( bright sunlight) from my sons Iphoney4.  Did it close to it's native size of 6x8 and It wasn't bad at all I have to say.  Unfortunately it seems that most pics I see people take are in terrible lighting that no camera would do well with. 

A friend of mine is into fitness and the last couple of years has entered one magazines annual Photo comp. Before you had to send in a pic on a white Background, this year they changed it to "Selfies".
I was looking online the other day and the resulting dogs breakfast is exactly what I would have predicted. All these people starting at phones in a Mirror. It looks totally lame and I wonder how long it will be before this current trendy Fo Par is realised for what it is.  Stupid.

Out of all the entries I saw, Only one person used an actual camera. I checked the rules and no where does it say you have to use a phone, I guess that's just what people relate it to these days along with the proliferation of pics taken on phones. 

I think Picture taking is going backwards with phones. Years ago photos were bit of a hit and miss affair often resulting in poor quality. Things got better with the advent of electronics and then Digital but now they are going backwards again with the use of camera phones. People seem to take less care and don't have any sense of quality. If it looks ok on the 2' screen it must be good.  Often it's not. 
I reckon in the future there will be a lot of people without many pics of themselves or missing a lot of important moments. It seems few people actually save their images from their phones and phones have a habit of getting dropped and lost and destroyed. If all the pics of your kids are on there from the last 12 months-2 years, that's going to be a big part of their growing up gone missing. 
 
For those that have lots of pics on HDDS, DO back them up!
I have lost plenty of my own kids pics through HDD's crashing, sometimes when they were only weeks old. 
Now I make directories every month on my Machine and at the beginning of each month I Plug in another HDD, transfer that months pics and away it goes again till next month. In January, I back all the years pics to yet another drive as well.
 I'm always changing drives on my machine so I just use regular SATA drives but portable HDDS are ideal for this and are too cheap not to do it now. 

About a month back I fitted one of these little boost compensators to the Mighty 4.2 with Schwitzer Turblow. 
 


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Turbotech-manual-turbo-boost-controller-ORIGINAL-/220798194994?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3368991532
 
I searched the net and read good reports on the things so I ordered one. 

Postage was a bit slow but I fitted it up when it arrived  and lifted the boost from the 7 psi I was getting to 10.
It actually runs to 11 if you give  it some stick, but for the most part with reasonable driving 10 is the effective pressure I'm seeing. 
Fitting was a 30 second exercise as on my truck I just selectively cut the existing hose to the actuator and spliced the thing in. Couple of small clamps and all done. 

Tuning was no problem, Initial feel of the pressure on the screw had the boost at 13 so a couple of adjustments and it was all good. I did read somewhere to do the boost readings in 3rd gear or higher and I agree. Even though I was testing up a small hill, the revs peak and fall too quick to see it accurately in the low gears and the max boost seems to be higher in the taller gears as well. I also saw a slight diff between when the engine was cold and hot. I don't have an IC fitted. 

As in many of the reports I read, the beauty of these things is in how they lift the bottom end boost which was precisely what I was after. I get about 3-4 PSi now at 1500 Revs and 8+ at 2000. It sure made my old girl a very different beast.
Obviously for the way I have it set, the top end isn't much different but the way the thing pulls on the way there is bloody awesome. 

I can see it's going to be hard on the back tyres. Every time I come out of a side street and give the thing a bit of squirt even when I start in 2nd gear as I usually do, the rear tyres are protesting to the added Torque. Once you get the thing straightened up and lean on the throttle, the thing gets up to speed very nicely and makes it a lot easier to merge into traffic.
 
The power does come on with more of a rush now but the only problem with that was the first time I took my daughter out for driving lessons after fitting the thing. She wasn't expecting  the rush and it gave her a bit of a surprise. Like Daddys Girl, the little bugger now wants to make the thing surge ever time she changes gears. My wife isn't so keen on the mod, she says it made the thing so much more nimble now and I throw it round like a sports car instead of a truck. 
Like there is some sort of problem with  being able to do that???  
 
As far as economy goes, I haven't measured or compared to previous in any meaningful way at all but pure gut feel is that I seem to be going further around town than I used to on the same amount of fuel. That's about as subjective and non factual as you can get and I haven't run the thing up the highway for any distance to get a feel for consumption that way but the few short excursions onto the highway so far have been brilliant performance wise. 
Hill climbing and overtaking is seamless and effortless and the thing is just a pleasure to drive. 
It wasn't bad before, now it's great. 
 
I towed my big trailer and the difference was pretty amazing. It was like the thing wasn't even there and the truck still pulled well even with the parachute on the back. 
If a person used one of these things and fueled the pump up as well, the result would be probably the best bang for buck increase in performance ever seen.

There are a lot of different Boost controllers out there and I'd say this one is one of the most basic but then again so is the engine I'm fitting it to. An electronic type may add advantages for people chasing outright performance or tuning but for $40 delivered, I couldn't be happier with this little unit.
It's small, simple, works great, cheap and was easy to fit and tune.

10/10 from me. 

In 30 Min you could just put a metal bucket over a good campfire and probably have hotter water by the time you circulated when you came back and it would definitely be cheaper on fuel.  
The heat output from the running engine is not going to be a lot so I can't see increasing the revs doing much. The circulation should be sufficient at idle. 
 
 
For those looking at installing a shower, you would be far better off just buying a common 30 Plate FPHE and using that as the heat exchanger. 
With the engine up to temp you would definitely get a hot shower in one pass.
 
I would suggest being careful as it's likely to be far too hot till you take some of the heat out of the engine and it warms up again. WIth FPHE efficiency being well into the 90's, you are only going to see a few degrees less in the shower temp than the engine coolant you are pumping through the hot side at the same rate. 

I'm taking an educated guess but I would be surprised if a wet coil HE in this application would be lucky to do 30% efficiency. 

It has been quiet of late but I have noticed that on a few different forums I visit that span quite a variety of subjects. 

I have been busy with work and haven't had enough time to sleep let alone much else  Haven't been going anywhere or doing much that would fit in with the scope of this forum either. 
 
The attitude and helpfulness of the membership here is very good so it would be great to see more conversations coming up. 

As I have ranted previously, I'm a big fan of water injection.

Being slack, I haven't yet got round to fitting it to the wifes car although I did turn the fuelling up heaps.
This is a danger when you are running veg fuel as the excess can cause the rings to coke up and a loss of compression. That's the reason I originally fitted it to my vehicles.

Her car has been getting harder to start and I saw signs of the ring coking. In an attempt to make up for my slackness, I fitted up a WI system to try and reverse any effects of the veg overfueling.

Being a turbo I have done things a little different this time.
To trigger the water from a subaru washer bottle, I used a washing machine water level switch. These are far too sensative for the job requiring fractions of a pound to trigger but I wound it up as far as I could and it is workable if far from ideal.
I could put an airbleed in the line to up the actual boot pressure it triggers at but I intend to replace it with a proper adjustable hobbs switch.

I used my beloved micro mist garden watering nozzle and with a right angle adapter, I inserted the thing in the duct from the air cleaner facing straight down the air stream.
There is a lot of conjecture about putting the water before the Turbo and it causing erosion of the turbine wheels. I don't know if this is a real risk or more internet paranoia. In any case I think it would take some time to happen and I have other priorities with the engine short term.

I tapped a boost signal from the compensator on the IP to the washing machine level switch and that switches the pump. It still kicks in at anything above idle pretty much with the air con on so with one of the little garden irrigation taps in the line to the nozzle, I turned the water rate right down so the thing doesn't load up with water at low revs and on the over run. While the water rate is very low, it's also nearly constant to compensate.

One thing I noticed with this straight off as did my son when he drove the car is hw much better the thing revs out through the gears. I think that may be due to the effect of the water cooling the inlet air much better than the poorly designed in every aspect intercooler.

I have had the water on 4 days now and pumped about 16L of water through in very few KM. A lot of that was really drowning the thing when testing the flow rate and where the thing kicked in which was too early and too much.
People carry on about putting too much water in and hydrolocking the engine but it's amazing how much water you can pour in with no more than a stumble at worst. On one test run I did manage to drown the engine to the pint it stopped and took enough cranking to kill the battery to get the thing started again. No more damage than a lot of smoke, probably from washing oil and crap out of the intercooler.

Already the thing is starting MUCH easier and more reliably like it should. I think the water may have got rid of the worst of the deposits but I also think that properly cleaning the engine of any coking will take a while. I noticed with my Merc the effects were very slight but noticeable for months before the performance levelled out and given the physics of the problem I suspect with this one, I expect the process to be gradual as well.

One effect I have noticed is how much cooler the engine is running. The thing is nearly sitting on the thermostat all the time now except of course in traffic where the water isn't running. The gauge in this car is VERY sensitive. You can see the temp go up a fraction after just one squirt through a couple of gears on boost. That isn't happening now and the thing just sits on the low point of the margin when it is up to operating temp. I'm a bit surprised given how little water i'm feeding in.

Must be cooling the engine in the truck quite a bit given the amount I'm feeding that at full tilt.
I'm planning on fitting another injector to that right at the front of the duct where it comes into the engine bay to try and cool the inlet air and compensate for the engine heat. Given I think the water will all but have evaporated and what hasn't will hit the air filter element and go in as vapour only, I don't think I'll need to lower the amount of water I'm squirting right down the throat of the thing.

I plan when I get time to move the injection point to the discharge side of the inter cooler and use a 60 PSI pump I bought a while back for this job. I really want the water to enter the cylinders as drops not vapour as I believe this has a much greater cleaning effect. Again this is not what the purists and Internet experts recommend but they are also usually chasing power not cleaning.

So once again I have convinced myself of how effective WI is in cleaning engines. I didn't expect to see such a change in a few days. I was hoping to see some improvement in a week or 2 but maybe the initial saturation helped somewhat? I can see it but who knows? All I know is that we can go out and start the thing as it should now rather than have to crank it and hope the thing will fire before the battery gives out. It's still a bit temperamental when hot for some reason that defys logic ( and it's not an IP fault) but I'll give it some time and see if that improves as well.

I have learned my lesson from this, I won't run a diesel on veg without fitting WI. For vehicles with PCV problems etc, I think this would also be a preventative to any trouble with that as well.
When I have this set up right, I'll have all of about $50 invested in it. Best mod and insurance for the money I can think of for what I'm doing.

Just came across this westy and thought of you mate.
I'm not sure how helpful it is as it appears to be written by a woman and you have to take every thing on the net with a grain of salt anyway.

Some of what they say no too looks perfectly OK to me and I can't see the problem but maybe it's a politically correct thing or something. Might be OK to print out and put in the babys room or something.

Anyway, hope it helps.

Just came across this westy and thought of you mate.
I'm not sure how helpful it is as it appears to be written by a woman and you have to take every thing on the net with a grain of salt anyway.

Some of what they say no too looks perfectly OK to me and I can't see the problem but maybe it's a politically correct thing or something. Might be OK to print out and put in the babys room or something.

Anyway, hope it helps.

Congrats Glort. I am happy for you and also relieved. I saw the title and thought you had wasted your $$$ on a poxy bloody Land Rover.

I did martial arts for many years and understand what you mean about some of the mass builders having no stamina.......Sometimes to a sad level.
That level of "fitness" is , to me, like a Pro-Stock drag car. Awesome for 400m, but then its spent.

The other side of the coin is a person like me that thought that I was invincible but now suffers the effects of bad training techniques (mainly over-training).

It sounds like you have found the perfect midway point. Bugger all exercise, yard work and a bit of relaxation. An old mate of mine likes to take his grand kids for a walk, they walk for miles. He has built up over a few years and now has enough grand kids, that when he wears one out, he walks it home and gets another. Last I heard, he was up to about 15km per day.

Got some grand kids?

Very well done.

Probably saved yourself about $300+ at accessories shop prices and come out with a lot better product.
Nothing more satisfying than a DIY project you know is better than anything you could have bought.

Hay guys. After putting some thought into it.. This is the outcome.

It is similar to others out there but different.
It fits up using 25mm SHS between the door and wheel carrier, but being one piece it is stronger than the GQ itself..

So I have made it so a mud slinging 35" sporters can fit to when completely collapsed, I'm running 31x10.5's and have 35mm of clearance between the pole and the wall.
(I can make shorter collapsed heights but it will affect overall height.)



At the 35" hight it extends to 300mm above the roof level for a good all round angle.


Any questions feel free to ask.
(I have over 10mtrs of steel left if you would like one.)
Thanks for looking.



Sent from a device which doesn't always agree with my thumbs...

Very well done.

Probably saved yourself about $300+ at accessories shop prices and come out with a lot better product.
Nothing more satisfying than a DIY project you know is better than anything you could have bought.

A good place to Dremmel and fit something useful.

Thanks Guys.

I think you are both spot on.

I have said to other friends until he takes responsibility for his actions and doings nothing will change and I agree this is the first and most important step.
Making him realise that I think is the real dangerous part. He's adopted the Victim role of late and getting through to make him admit his mistakes and not have him put the " I'm getting picked on by my friends now" excuse into place will be a hard one.
I do know what you mean on that score Very well oldmate.

You have also picked up on this well Westy.
One of his bleatings ATM is that's he's too old to change and do something new. The irony as pointed out by another friend is that I'm actually a little older than him and I changed what I was doing this year and it's sure paid off. I'm also expecting the hard done by thing to come up which of course I'm all over given my background and his relative fairy tale one in comparison.

The guy has skills. I have never met a better born salesman and I CAN sell myself. He was the top car salesman in the country for his brand when he was doing that about 6-7 years ago and surprised everyone by going into the trucking industry. He went from rolling round in $100K+ cars someone else paid for and a " Cheap" $1000 Suit to an old shitty truck and a blue singlet and jeans. He then bought himself a $250K truck which was when the disaster really struck.
He went pig headed into a useless part of the transport game that Blind freddy could see was a sure looser and ignored profitable work that was thrown at him for no other reason than it wasn't what he wanted to do.

Even financial desperation wasn't enough to sway him which is something I'll never understand. I'd pick up dogshit with my bare hands if someone paid me enough. What I want or like doing is highly a secondary consideration when it comes to earning a living and providing for the family. I don't have any particular love for what I'm doing now but it's the best financial reward I can see so I do it.

Anyway, thanks for the advise. I sure will keep it in mind as I try to formulate the plan of attack to wake him up and get him back to some sort of reality.

He won't be hard to find. He will either be on a bike forum garnering sympathy or the mail that bolts anywhere to the side next time he sees you. Probably while trying to rub bullbar marks out of his ribs.





Tipsy-tap

WOOO HOOO. Lets start a club. You can be number 2, cos I hit one in about 1992. I had a choice of hitting a Mack tipper or a pushbike. Self preservation took over lol.

The more we hit, the less will be on the road.......Call it culling of the stupid

I needed to buy an on camera flash for some work I am doing.
I really don't like these on camera things even though they are all the rage now with people that think manually setting an apeture and shutter speed value on their camera and flash is too difficult. My 25+ y/o Metz hammer heads do me just fine but unfortunately, are too big for the underwater bags I'm using.

I couldn't bring myself to paying $600 for the genuine canon units having used them before and being particularly unimpressed with them. I heard about these Chinese Things and read some good Reviews. The place I have bought some other cheap studio lighting gear from Which has all been excellent) had a special on them so I picked one up for $160 to give it a go.

The brand Is Yongnuo and the flash is their top of the line, Blow your nose, wipe your backside, E-TTL yada yada ripoff of canons original. The Yongnuo is YN565EX Which is compatible with the Canon 580EX and the Nikoff SB900.

I have only played around the house with the 565 over the last few days but to say I am impressed with the thing is a huge understatement.

The light quality that comes out of this thing is the best I have ever seen on a portable unit and that includes the Uber exy and somewhat rare Quantum Q series units.
While a lot of on camera flashes produce harsh edged shadows and have a very rapid light fall off, these things Illuminate beautifuly. The foreground subject is perfectly lit ( much better than any canon unit I have used by a country mile!) and the backgrounds stay detailed for meters behind as well. This is in stark contrast to the canon units which are harsh and have terrible fall off.

The colour balance of the 565 is also the best I have ever seen. It's dead neutral. All the canon units I have used have been blue as hell and take a custom white balance in the camera to make them look something like they should.
I also find with every canon unit I have used the actual exposure the things put out needs to have compensation dialed in to get the images right.
The Yonguno is spot on exposure and colour balance wise straght out of the box.

They of course have the normal swivel and bounce and the built in flip down wide angle diffuser and white bounce card but even straight out of the head, the quality of the output is fantastic!
They are very much like the Canon/ Nikoff units in look, layout and features. They even have the wireless remote/ auto feature that allows TTL sync with other units.

I think the wireless is the same as the canon system and only an infra red setup that isn't worth a pinch in daylight but I guess that's why they make Pocket Wizzards. The battery life is quoted as low as 100 flashes which would of course be full dumps but it does have the external battery terminal that allows you to run from 12 batteries instead of 4.
The battery life is quoted as Alakalines so if using Nickel metals you should do a bit better.
Recycle time for a flat dump is 3 seconds which the unit seems to do easily even with NiMh cells with quite a few frames on them already. The Flash is also compatible with a Quantum turbo battery which would have full recylce coming in at 1 sec or less.

Pretty much the 565's do everything the OEM units do but at a fraction of the price.
I don't know how well these things will last but the canon units certainly aren't without their reliability issues amoung others. If the quality of the compents on the 565 is as good as the quality of the light output, these things will become redundant long before they wear out.

Chinese stuff always has a stigma to it but I have to say I'm fast getting over that thanks to products like this.
The parameter I always used to put on cheaper alternatives is dividing the price of the original by the knockoffs and then asking if X units will last as long as the one original. At the price these things go for, they are a bargain for sure and I get the feeling are probably just as good quality wise.
Performance wise, they are a light that would justify a $600 price tag as far as I'm concerned and the canons would be more accurately price pointed at 160 bux.

It should also be remembered that the Canon units have been far from trouble free. There have been a lot of problems with these things over time and I seem to remember at least one recall/ free repair being issued on them.
I suspect if they had the Yongnu name on them they would be labeled as crap but because they are canon and are associated with a quality brand and the marketing influence behind it, the flaws get over looked or passed off as unusual. From what I know and have experienced, issues with the Canons are not that unusual at all.

I have tried the thing on my good camera's as well as the toy ones and it works perfectly on both and is fully compatible. You can ajust the custom functions of the flash through the camera which I find easier than trying to work out the symbols on the flash LCD.

Along with the flash I also got a cheap little softbox/ diffuser that goes over the head and is secured with a bit of elastic strap and velcro. I have borrowed one from a mate and was highly impressed with it on the canon 580 which personally I would never pay $600 for. It improved the light output on the canon dramatically and softens an already great illumination on the Yongnuo. Indoors, the output is almost shadowless.

The ONLY complaint I have about these units is the name. Trying to pronounce it is the only thing I don't like about them.

For anyone that wants an on camera flash for general ( or Pro) use, I'd highly reccomend the Yongnuo 565.
You can bolt the things on and they are ready to go or you can get up to your eyeballs in the custom functions, wireless TTL setups and more.
The price is unbeatable, The quality of the light out put probably is as well and certainly the best I have seen from an on camera light and it has every feature you could want including full compatability with the canon units.

This last couple of days I have come across some first hand examples of how thick some people are.

The best one goes to the person that applied to the Job I advertised. I'm sure no one here will doubt me when I say I went into good specific detail in the ad so any prospective applicant had a good idea what it was about from the word go.

Last night I got an application that said. " I am interested in this ad position".
That was it. No other detail what so ever. So pittying the poor idiot, I replied:

"That's bloody great, I'm interested in finding someone to fill the position.
Seeing you didn't have enough sense to put your details or anything about yourself in your reply, I can automatically deduct that you do not have the brains to handle the job and are probably too lazy as well.

If you can't even apply for a job properly, how the hell are you going to do it properly if you did get it?"

Unreal. I have heard of this before. Applications with no name or contact details but I kind of put it down to urban legend. Clearly it's not.


I have gone into a venture with specialised work I had never done before and that didn't worry me a bit. I have grown the business almost over night to a point where I have serious commitments like I have never had before and that doesn't worry me. I am spending money on equipment and materials like never before and that doesn't worry me.
I have lined myself up enough work so I will be working almost 3 months, every single day non stop and that dosen't worry me.

Finding some people with brains and a heartbeat to work permanent part time in an easy job that I'm prepared to pay well, has me Chitting bricks.

Whoa !!!!

There is soon going to be a lot of veg available westy.

It is HIGHLY illegal to feed waste Veg to pigs and for good reason.

All sorts of diseases and bacteria etc can be passed on through this.
I'm not one for dobbing people in but I would say for the sake of many peoples health, you have a duty to notify your nearest Department of agriculture about this. It's the equivalent of growing fruit and veg in human Chit.

I can't believe that this farmer is doing this. It's a huge public health risk. It could be you , me or one of our families that get something let alone anyone one else.
PLEASE let your local Dept of agriculture know about this and pass on all the info you can. It's a very serious matter and literally people could get bloody sick or die from it.
Obviously if this is legit and not a public health risk the guy doing it won't have a thing to worry about but if they do take action it would be for bloody good reason. The guy doing it would have to know how wrong it is and why. Obviously he's a greedy Crunt that puts his own profit above peoples health.

I can't stress how serious this is.
You really need to notify the authorities about it ASAP for everyones sake.
Please!

Filter or electrical.
Bad Ignition coil, leads, Plugs, Dizzy Cap etc.

In the mean time, just for fun, get hold of a vaccuum cleaner and reverse it and give the thing a shot of air down the valve.

I have tired this on mine though the holes and it actually went out. On yours because of the single hole and the angle you have it, the thing may burn like mad and heat up like never before.

I was at Dinner with the brother in law last night and I was sitting here thinking there was something I wanted to ask him and couldn't remember.
I wanted him to get me some gas bottles and old Kegs. They come in to his work and they have to set them aside till they get a heap to take away for disposal being pressure vessels.

I want the kegs to make a Retort for cracking engine oil etc but cut down a bit they would make one hell of a burner like this!
Even better, put a 2" air Pipe in the side and replace the valve section with a 3" outlet and you would have one serious arse pressure Burner!

I think we need to get some others in and have a competition for most powerful veg burner.
Who can be the first to build a burner to demolish 25L of oil in 15 min?
For those wanting to get in on the fun, My reccomendations are to start off with a leaf blower, a 1/3rd HP water pump or better, a good strong steel tank, and a wide clear space with a good distance to anything flammable like Houses, vehicles, trees etc and a silver foil flame proof suit.

Nothing like getting up close and personal with 1000Kw of heat output!
Trust me, 200Kw is substantial enough!

After that we can see who can boil an IBC full of water in the shortest time.

Must be a danger of using Different Fuels.

I filled my tank once with some oil that was so wet it was like mayonnaise . Dopey me should have known better. I saw it but being last winter I thought it was just very fatty and didn't worry about it. Down the road where I was struggling to get the car and trailer over 80 I pulled over and changed the filter. No better. At the event I was doing I had some time so checked it out again and then realised when I changed the filter before, the filter was hot but the oil was still creamy. If it were fats, they would have melted and gone clear and shiny.

I crawled the thing back home, dropped the gunk, filled it with good oil and eventually burnt it all off.
Been a lot more careful with where I put clean and dirty drums ever since so I only ever pick them up from one place and know they are OK.

I did noticed the thing run better than normal with good fuel. I think it got the best water injection clean out ever with the wet oil.

Not boring us at all. In fact I'm thinking of giving it a try in the gu2.8

I'm sure I will have some questions shortly.

Tipsy-tap